Quote from e2mustang :

its gotta be an american joke than coz i dont get it

He took your sig as you saying "no you (demo) took my (S2) XRT.

To which he replied "Don't worry we (demo) gave it back to you (S2).

I got it.


At any rate, I'm not saying you have to make skins sashdev. I'm just saying that if you contribute in some way, help the community out, you could end up helping someone generous that thinks your contributions are worth buying you S2.

I'm not going to tell you what to do, I was merely offering some simple suggestions. It's up to you to figure out how to contribute. Some people have earned their licenses around here in different ways and I'm not even saying that it will work for you.

I do have to say though that you have showed tremendous effort here in this thread. If you put that much effort into talking your parents into letting you buy S2 or if you put that much effort into practicing for the FBM competition then you would probably already have S2.

Quote from shashdev :

OMG, can any of you read the whole topic before you start telling me to get the money. Really? How about you read the numerous times I have stated that I have the money to buy the game, but I cannot since my parents do not let me. I have enough money to buy a $3000 car if I want. Okay, get it? I have the money. My parents do not let me use it on the game. I tried to let my dad play it last night. He looked at it, and said it does not look realistic. Yes, they do not want to have any reason to let my buy the game.

REVIEW:
-I have the money
-Parents do not let me buy the game
-I cannot convince them

Is that clear enough for you. Sorry for sounding mad, buy it pisses me off when people start stating the same thing over and over again. I can understand with one or two posts. I don't need 15 posts telling me to buy it myself. I really was trying not to do this, but if you are not going to read the whole topic, don't bother answering based on just post 1. Thanks for the posts that actually talk about the SUGGESTION, not about how much money I have.

While I can see that a few have maybe not read the whole thread to the degree that you demand, you have failed to read every post as well. I gave you no less than 4 suggestions in this post on page 2 http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=799217#post799217

Quote :

If your parents won't let you get it then respect their wishes. If you have to have it, try contributing to the game some other way. Make insim apps, make skins, build websites. You could even join in the voucher competition. There are a lot of generous people here, help them out and maybe, just maybe they will help you out.

Had you actually bothered to read that the first time I posted it, you would have noticed I gave you some suggestions to circumvent your parents strict no spending policy.

Instead, you would rather get mad because no one is seeing it your way. Even some demo users have stopped by and said that the demo is more than enough the way it is. All you want is for someone to give you more for free. You aren't actually willing to earn it.

I mean, I'd love to own a yacht. It's not going to happen so I've accepted that. Man up and accept it for what it is. You don't always get what you want.

On the other hand, if you want it bad enough, you will figure out a way to get it.

Last edited by S k i p p y, Fri 16 May 2008, 22:47.

Quote from shashdev :

Yeah, I already have the money. That is no problem at all. It is my parents not letting me buy it. They think that is too much to spend on a game! It really sucks!

My 8 year old has his regular chores around the house. If I want him to do something outside of those regular chores then I usually pay him at my discretion. He can spend that money on anything he wants. I believe I'm teaching him the value of money this way. That is just my stance. I can't tell your parents how to raise you so that's a moot point.

So I will just tell you what my parents used to tell me - when you're 18 you can do whatever you want, until then you live by our rules.

If your parents won't let you get it then respect their wishes. If you have to have it, try contributing to the game some other way. Make insim apps, make skins, build websites. You could even join in the voucher competition. There are a lot of generous people here, help them out and maybe, just maybe they will help you out.

I usually don't get involved in things like this but I'm really getting tired of demo users always wanting more. Buy the game.

From a marketing standpoint, they gave the FBM to the demo so that people that are genuinely interested in buying the game could see what an open-wheeler was like. The trade off was that you lost a car. If the people that complained about that were really planning on buying LFS, they wouldn't have complained in the first place knowing they would get it back as soon as they purchased S2. Buy the game.

As far as tracks go - BL is a great track to make your decision on whether or not to buy. It has a long straight, it has sweepers in both directions, it has tight corners. It's perfect for a demo. Buy the game.

Before I played the LFS demo I had never downloaded a real piece of software that didn't have a time limit. Yes I know that there are freeware versions of almost anything imaginable but LFS is not freeware. If you download pretty much any demo of any software, there is a time limit. I am all for putting a time limit on the demo. It would force people to finally make up their minds. Fortunately for you the devs are nicer than I am. They put up with the freeloaders that complain or "suggest" stuff here. Plus they pretty much put up with a lot of you guys playing a part of their game indefinitely for free. Buy the game.

My point is, if you were really planning on actually buying the game any time soon, you wouldn't be here complaining or "suggesting". I understand that sometimes money is tight. I played the demo for a few months. At that time money was tight around here. So I budgeted. If the demo did expire at some point, I could of lived without until I could afford it. Buy the game.

What a lot of you demoers fail to realize is the bottom line. This is a business. The devs did not get into this so that they could spend the majority of their time working on something for free. This is their job. The money we pay them for LFS goes towards rent, food, clothes, etc. The money also goes into research to make the game better. The game that you have not yet paid for gets better every day because most of us choose to pay. Buy the game.

Let me ask you this - If I asked you to come mow 1.55% of my lawn, then I asked you to mow another .51% for a total of 2.06% of my lawn, would you do it? Knowing full well that i probably wasn't going to pay you to mow the rest of it anyway?

I applaud your well thought out post. You seem to have a grasp on math and grammar. Which is more than I can say for most kids your age. So kudos on that. However, it doesn't excuse the fact that you are here begging for more free stuff. Enjoy what you have, it is free after all. Demoers keep complaining or "suggesting" and you may end up with nothing at all. Buy the game.

Cya around.

Last edited by S k i p p y, Thu 15 May 2008, 08:26.

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

If you want your server to be included in the barricade do you have to ask, or does it do it automagically does anyone know?

You don't really include your server. The barricade is pretty much just a site that admins who have the site password can go and look at the evidence. Kind of like a library for crashers. You could one-click ban from the website to your server at one point but I'm not sure if SamH updated that feature to work with the new patch. Personally I go there once a week, look at the new uploaded mprs, then update my ban lists for our servers. It's pretty simple, takes a little bit of your time, but it's worth it to me to keep our servers clean.

PM SamH, he can give you the particulars.

I'd like to remind you all that if you see anybody anywhere using hacks of any kind please send the replay to the Wrecker Barricade http://barricade.ukct.net/

That way a lot of the server admins can ban these idiots without having to hunt the mprs down on the forums. Just makes it easier and quicker for us.

If you admin multiple servers and would like access to the replays uploaded at the barricade, contact the mod here named SamH. He created the barricade system and it does work.

Let's clean up our game we all love.

He's demo though. Demo bans IPs. So wouldn't he need to /unban "IP"?

We wish Ed and his family all the best, and a speedy recovery.

Get well soon Ed!

Quote from Albieg :

For sure, it was this:

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11651

This person has been perma-banned from all LOTF servers since that was posted. This is one of the many reasons that anybody with a server needs to contact SamH and get on his Barricade mailing list. Let's keep this game clean.

Today, we at the "Land Of The Free"

|||MARSH
|||BDSHAN
|||Leadtail
|||Vette
|||nmanley
|||Tick
|||Z51L9889
|||Eric62
|||BrandonAgr
|||S k i p p y
|||pjwon63
|||srdsprinter
|||Oompa
|||Danke
LOTF GhostRyder

welcome a new provisional member from Orlando, Fl.
LOTF NoQuarter

Just wanted to post a current team roster.

Happy Anniversary!

"Land Of The Free"

~full members~
|||MARSH
|||BDSHAN
|||Leadtail
|||Vette
|||nmanley
|||Tick
|||Z51L9889
|||Eric62
|||BrandonAgr
|||S k i p p y
|||pjwon63
|||srdsprinter
|||Oompa
|||Danke

~provisional members~
LOTF GhostRyder

Thanks everyone for a great 1st year. Here's to many more to come!

Quote from racer hero :

ha good luck with getting that time on ky oval!!!

No offense but I'm betting you couldn't hold a candle to th84 on any track.

Also, what makes you so special that you need 2 threads going? Everybody else gets by with 1.

Good luck with your team.

Thanks for replying tade. Hope it gets sorted out for you over at Eagle. Cya on the server some time.

You should also know (having been here over a year) that complaining about others on the LFS Forums is generally frowned upon. If you have a problem with Eagle Racing, you should contact them directly.

Sorry you had a problem with them. But it is their server and they can do what they like with it, including banning you. Not saying I agree with the why, what, how, because I don't know the circumstances.

Feel free to stop by one of our servers and race with us some time.

I think a mod should probably clean up these last few posts.

Last edited by S k i p p y, Wed 24 Jan 2007, 05:27.

Today, we at the "Land Of The Free"

|||MARSH
|||BDSHAN
|||Leadtail
|||Vette
|||nmanley
|||Tick
|||Z51L9889
|||Eric62
|||BrandonAgr
|||S k i p p y
|||pjwon63
|||srdsprinter
|||Oompa
|||torqueD
|||p38wannabe
|||Danke
LOTF hpisloud
LOTF Handler
LOTF GhostRyder
LOTF Andrew
welcome a new provisional member from Rockwood, Michigan
LOTF BEEAH

Today, we at the "Land Of The Free"

|||MARSH
|||BDSHAN
|||Leadtail
|||Vette
|||nmanley
|||Tick
|||Z51L9889
|||Eric62
|||BrandonAgr
|||S k i p p y
|||pjwon63
|||srdsprinter
|||Oompa
|||torqueD
|||p38wannabe
LOTF hpisloud
LOTF Handler
LOTF GhostRyder
LOTF Andrew
welcome a new full member from Dublin, Ohio
|||Danke

Today, we at the "Land Of The Free"

|||MARSH
|||BDSHAN
|||Leadtail
|||Vette
|||nmanley
|||RaceFreek
|||Tick
|||Z51L9889
|||Eric62
|||BrandonAgr
|||S k i p p y
|||pjwon63
|||srdsprinter
|||Oompa
|||torqueD
|||p38wannabe
LOTF hpisloud
LOTF Handler
LOTF GhostRyder
welcome a new provisional member from Portland, Connecticut....
Ctracinfan aka LOTF Andrew

My apologies to Andrew for not posting this sooner.

Last edited by S k i p p y, Thu 30 Nov 2006, 20:55.

Today, we at the "Land Of The Free"

|||MARSH
|||BDSHAN
|||Leadtail
|||Vette
|||nmanley
|||RaceFreek
|||Tick
|||Z51L9889
|||Eric62
|||BrandonAgr
|||S k i p p y
|||pjwon63
|||srdsprinter
|||Oompa
|||torqueD
|||p38wannabe
LOTF hpisloud
LOTF Handler
welcome a new provisional member from Youngstown, Ohio....
TypeRCivic aka LOTF GhostRyder

Last edited by S k i p p y, Thu 30 Nov 2006, 20:40.

That'll buff out.

Quote from COOP201 :

I'm 30 years old so you dont have worry about any Kid BS from me.

But that takes all the fun out of it...............

Just wanted to drop in and say hi :wave2: to my Fusion buddies.

Oh, and you too Duck.

Haven't seen any of you in a while.

Team is looking good.

1. Swearing: We generally won't ban for swearing. We will ask you not too. If you keep swearing anyway, you will get kicked. If you come back and don't behave, you get banned for a period of not less than 3 months. Children do play this game. Everyone should keep that in mind.

2. Abuse: Abuse is not allowed on our server. Treat others how you like to be treated. If you like to be abused, they're plenty of other places to go. Abusing other racers will get you banned for a period of not less than 6 months. Abusing a team member will get you pema-banned.

3. Bitching: Blue flag cry babies and the like are asked to calm down. If they refuse, they are kicked. If they come back and act like a tool, they will get banned for a period of not less than 3 months.

4. Flag violators: Disobeying flags will get you warned. A second time gets you kicked.

5. Crashing: No warnings, no kicks. You blatantly crash on our servers and you will find yourself with a lifetime ban. Track sitting will get you a lengthy ban as well.

LOTF servers are part of the "Wrecker Barricade" network. If you get reported, chances are you will find yourself banned from our servers whether or not you were ever there before.

These are my criteria for banning on LOTF servers. Depending on moods and whos admining, criteria may differ.

All in all, I believe we at Land Of The Free are more than fair.

Last edited by S k i p p y, Fri 29 Sep 2006, 03:20.

Actually he was banned for abusing other players on our server during our team night. The comments about hunting people down came after the fact when he wanted to dispute his ban. He is not affiliated with LOTF in any way nor has he ever been.

I will not go into further detail as this matter was handled internally among LOTF and the fellow who was banned. We would like to keep it that way.

Quote from SamH :

If you think that's advanced, you should see Big Brother Nanny State in the UK. We're now getting pairs of cameras cropping up all over the place that read and digitally store your licence plate passing two points, a mile or so apart. They hook into the central computer, they know who you are, they know which direction you're going, and if you exceed the speed limit on AVERAGE between those two points, by 10% or more, you MIGHT expect a letter and a fine in just a few days. And not one cop, or human interaction, anywhere in the mix.

Yeah they have those in Mesa, Az. Loop 101 they put cameras up and I believe I heard they are mailing tickets for anything over 2mph over the posted limit. They said on the news that the first night they were activated, they caught 175 people speeding, all of which were going to receive tickets via mail.

EDIT: This reminds me of a funny story I heard on the radio: This guy was apparently caught running a red light on camera. He received a letter from the court with a picture of his car and plate and a fine that said he owed $40. So thinking he was clever, and the lack of an actual cop pulling him over, he took a picture of two $20 bills and mailed it back to the courthouse. So the Sheriff, being even a little more clever, took a picture of a pair of handcuffs and sent it back to the man. The court got their money within a week.

Last edited by S k i p p y, Fri 25 Aug 2006, 04:34.